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_________________You'll enjoy this video, or search for "Presidential Secrets" with Gene Tatum especially at about 40 minutes and 55 minutes talk neutralizing individuals, foreign nationals, and American citizens talk about use of foreign intelligence officers who will have no compunction about neutralizing American citizens for a fee 800-201-7892 x58 no idea if this is still active (I cannot comment on Alan Keyes and David Icke appearing at the end of this video) (All corporations are pyramids.) (I don't agree with Tatum's assassination politics, but what he says is still important.) Black Ops Interview with Gene 'Chip' Tatum http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/feature_article_listing.htm http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/the_pegasus_file-part1.htm THE PEGASUS FILE Vietnam Special Forces Air Combat Controller; 25 year CIA deep cover agent; US Army pilot flying classified missions during the US invasion of Grenada; Iran-Contra pilot flying cocaine shipments labelled as medical supplies; and member of the ultra-secret, international G7 run Pegasus "Hit Team" - this is the extraordinary story of Gene "Chip" Tatum. http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/the_pegasus_file-part2.htm Gene Tatum's revelations are EXPLOSIVE, naming many names and connections that go to the very top. He claims to have video and audio cassette evidence directly implicating the biggest of the big. He was recently hidden away deep in some federal pen. I am not sure of his present status, but his life may very well be in danger. He should not be silenced and he should be protected. Tatum's information has the compelling quality of one who was on the scene. The supprssion of what he has to say adds to its veracity. But you can judge that for yourself. His recent relocations in prison strongly suggest that he is a danger to the guilty. Lets lend him a hand in his revelations! Gene Tatum and his wife Nancy seem to have an e-mail address here: Gene & Nancy Tatum mailto:blackops@sundial.sundial.net old address This document comes from the Conspiracy Nation Archives Conspiracy Nation is a mixed bag, but is has lots of good stuff You can find them here: Conspiracy Nation This document consists of three Numbers of CN combined: Vol. 8 Num. 62 to Num 64 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GENE "CHIP" TATUM -- CA. JULY 1996 Abbreviated transcript of Gene Tatum's appearance on the Rob Lori radio show, "Radioactivity" on WMNF, out of Tampa, Florida. ROBERT LORI: Good afternoon. This is "Radio Activity." I'm Robert Lori. In the Hillsboro(sp?) County jail right now is a man who says he's been involved in covert operations since the mid-1970s; that he has knowledge of drug smuggling by employees of the U.S. government; and that he was once assigned the task of assassinating political figures, *including*, he says, orders to assassinate Ross Perot in 1992. We're joined now by Gene Tatum, who's speaking to us from the Morgan Street jail in Hillsboro County. Gene Tatum, welcome to WMNF. GENE TATUM: Good afternoon. ROBERT LORI: Good afternoon. Was I accurate in that introduction? GENE TATUM: Yeah, I would say so. I would like to qualify the Ross Perot portion of it. The unit that I was working with is code named "Pegasus." By the time a mission comes to us, we're ordered to "neutralize." Now we can neutralize in any of three methods: through intimidation, blackmail, or "termination." ROBERT LORI: Was it clear what method they were advocating? GENE TATUM: They pretty well leave it up to us. ROBERT LORI: Let's start with the first thing: you're in Hillsboro County jail. You're awaiting sentencing on federal charges. What were the charges? GENE TATUM: In 1991, I was approached by a person, who I'd had previous dealings with, to manage a golf course for the federal government. I guess it had gone into receivership and the bank had gone under, and the FDIC had taken that property over, in Hutchin(?), Florida. I managed the property. I guess I stayed at the property for about nine months. But through the management portion... I think early in the program (if anyone heard "Democracy Now"), I had to chuckle a little bit because the CEO of Bell Industries talked about government contracts and the difficulty in dealing with the government. One of the prime difficulties is getting the government to pay their bills on time. I was there four months and they hadn't paid a bill yet. So I began taking the monies out of the cash register -- paying the bills on behalf of the government, that the government had accrued to small contractors. I mean, these people are hand-to-mouth contractors, small equipment rental places and so forth, that can't afford to go unpaid for four months. So what I did is, I began paying them. That was contrary to the contract, so by doing that I "defrauded the government of the use of those funds" -- is the way the statement was written. ROBERT LORI: I see. So instead of sending the money back to Uncle Sam, you were paying the local suppliers, local businesses, that your golf course relied on. GENE TATUM: Correct. ROBERT LORI: And what about pocketing any money: were you convicted of taking any money for your personal use? GENE TATUM: No. We [Tatum and his wife] weren't convicted of embezzling at all. We were convicted of what's called "conspiring to embezzle." ROBERT LORI: How much money are we talking about? GENE TATUM: Of "conspiring to embezzle?" Actually I ended up paying $20,000 of my own money. ROBERT LORI: I mean, how much money did you divert from the cash register to local businesses? What was the amount that you were convicted on? GENE TATUM: I think around $40,000. ROBERT LORI: When does your sentencing come up? GENE TATUM: August 28th [1996]. ROBERT LORI: And how much time *could* you spend in prison if your sentence is harsh? GENE TATUM: My maximum sentence is 30 years. ROBERT LORI: Do you feel like this [charge] was in retaliation for anything that you've done in the past? GENE TATUM: Absolutely. In 1994 I received a phone call from Oliver North, Felix Rodriguez, and William Colby, telling me to turn over certain documents that I had recorded years ago -- "or else," is the way it was put. I refused to do that, knowing that turning those documents over would probably result in the "termination" of me. ROBERT LORI: "Termination" in the most extreme way? GENE TATUM: In the absolute way. ROBERT LORI: What were these documents that they wanted? GENE TATUM: We have (I say "we," because it's documents held by the flight crews who were involved in this) documents showing the movement of cocaine, the manufacturing of cocaine, by Oliver North and a company called "The Enterprise" that he headed up. We moved, probably, about 2 tons of cocaine out of Nicaragua and Honduras, to Panama, on board military aircraft -- being told the whole time that these were "fruits of war" that were confiscated from the Sandinistas. (It's interesting that just recently Costa Rica has issued a "persona non grata" against Oliver North for the trafficking of cocaine. If he shows up in that country, he'll be arrested.) ROBERT LORI: How do you know cocaine was on board? Did you actually *see* the cocaine? GENE TATUM: I was tasked on February 26th, 1985, to fly... I was a Special Operations pilot out of the 160th Aviation Group, Fort Campbell, Kentucky. I was sent to Fort Stuart, Georgia, to infiltrate the MEDEVAC unit and work directly for my handlers, the CIA handlers, which were Amiram Nir and Felix Rodriguez and Oliver North. On February 26th I picked up two passengers, "Buzz" Sawyer and Bill Cooper, and I flew them to a Contra camp, under the MEDEVAC disguise. We had to use MEDEVAC because the Boland Amendment came out in the mid-'80s that didn't allow the United States to participate in any way, other than humanitarian, to support the Contras. Under the MEDEVAC flag, we would fly many, many -- hundreds of hours of -- missions: intelligence gathering, delivering arms, and so forth. On this particular day I flew "Buzz" Sawyer and Bill Cooper. And these are the two gentlemen who crashed in 1986 -- in October of 1986 -- that started the Iran-Contra scandal. I flew them. They were arranging for air drops of arms into Nicaragua. When we *left* the camp, we picked up two coolers, two large, white coolers. (These coolers are the same kind of coolers that, by the way, I delivered to several sites in Arkansas in 1983. I delivered, on about 8 missions, coolers, to Little Rock and Mena, Arkansas. Large, white coolers, the same as these, weighing about 200 pounds.) When we landed, after we picked up these particular coolers from a Contra camp and landed in La Mesa, Honduras, to drop off our passengers and to give these coolers to a C-130 bound for Panama, we picked the coolers up out of the aircraft and we dropped one and the seal came loose. The coolers were marked "vaccine." However inside there were over 100 keys of cocaine. ROBERT LORI: What happened to the coolers once you dropped them on the ground? Where did they go? GENE TATUM: They got re-sealed real quick after we saw what they were. We gave them to the C-130 pilot. I asked him what his destination was and who he intended on passing these off to. He told me that his manifest showed that the coolers went to a "Dr. Harari" in Panama. Now "Dr. Harari" is Mike Harari. He's a Mossad agent who was assigned to General Manuel Noriega as one of his counselors. ROBERT LORI: But the drugs were headed northward, weren't they? From Nicaragua to the U.S.? GENE TATUM: No, they were headed initially to Panama. From Panama they were distributed throughout the United States and to other destinations. ROBERT LORI: So you had documentation. Does that documentation still exist somewhere? GENE TATUM: It does. We also have video tapes of Mr. North and others standing in the middle of a "cocaine kitchen" while the cocaine is being packaged. ROBERT LORI: And why was Mr. North there? GENE TATUM: During the Iran-Contra era there were many camps known as "the North camps." People think that that means they were in the northern part of Nicaragua and Honduras. That's not true. Those were the camps built by Oliver North. They were built primarily to manufacture drugs. (BREAK-----) ROBERT LORI: Gene Tatum is back with us, live. You're listening to "Radio Activity," WMNF, in Tampa. So tell us more about these Oliver North "camps." It seems pretty hard to imagine that Oliver North, who was a White House aide, had the time to go down and do all this: to set up these camps and to be so involved in what you say is cocaine smuggling when, I think it was the Kerry Commission looked into this, and others, and nobody's found the hard proof. There's been some witnesses who have come forward to make these allegations in the past. But nobody has come up with a video tape or anything like that. GENE TATUM: That's interesting. And let me qualify that Commission's task: those commissions were tasked with looking at the arms sale and the illegal cover up of information on that. They were not tasked to look into drug activity. ROBERT LORI: So if these video tapes exist and if the flight records exist, why not just release them and make them public? GENE TATUM: Because the video tapes exist showing other people, along with Mr. North. If I were to release those tapes -- the 1994 call to me threatened my children. (I have four children, who live with their mom.) I will not allow that to happen. I don't mind exposing Mr. North, Mr. Rodriguez. Mr. Nir can no longer be exposed because I was tasked with eliminating him in 1988. ROBERT LORI: Okay, let's talk about that. Amiram Nir is an Israeli intelligence person. And I'm not sure whether he worked for the government or not. Tell me more about Amiram Nir. GENE TATUM: He was the Prime Minister of Israel's primary consultant on terrorism. He was associated with Israeli intelligence. I'm not going to say it was Mossad. It was Israeli intelligence of some sort -- because of his knowledge. And when you say "Mr. North's time to build these camps:" He designated that to General Alvarez of Honduras -- he was the army Chief of Staff -- and to Enrique Bermudez(sp?), the commander of those North camps. *They* actually built those camps. I think I saw Mr. North one time in Honduras -- no, twice. I'm sorry. ROBERT LORI: So in terms of "taking out" Amiram Nir, what was your role in that? GENE TATUM: I was to fly a 4-man team to a southern Mexico town, outside of Morelia. Mr. Nir was involved in an avocado packaging plant which, I don't know if it did or didn't package avocados, or packaged something else. I was not involved in that. I *was* involved in eliminating him before he could appear before the commissions to testify in 1989. I flew a 4-man team in. There was a radio beacon put in, with the frequency given to us, put on Mr. Nir. We triangulated the position. The 4-man team went to that position to eliminate Mr. Nir. However apparently there were two signals, and one was in an aircraft, a small aircraft. I think it was a Cessna T-210, a small, charter aircraft. When I fly a mission as a combat helicopter pilot, into a foreign country, we normally fly in what's called "the Archer Mode," which is an armed mode. We would fly an aircraft with full Stingers on one side of the pod, and we would fly a, about a one-quarter to one-third charged missiles on the right side of the aircraft, so that we could scare away base aircraft based in the country that we were in, rather than shoot them down. We would rather scare them away than shoot them down. Unfortunately, this missile, the proximity missile that I fired, took down the aircraft and killed two people on board. ROBERT LORI: And one of them was Amiram Nir? GENE TATUM: That's correct. ROBERT LORI: The shoot-down took place at a time when the Iran-Contra scandal was on the front pages of American newspapers, right? GENE TATUM: That's right. ROBERT LORI: So what's your theory about why your superiors wanted him "taken out?" GENE TATUM: I believe that he could have provided embarrassing information about the involvement of Mr. Harari, directly linking, probably, Israel, to the manufacturing and trafficking of cocaine. I believe that he could implicate the Vice-President of the United States, George Bush, in the trafficking of cocaine. And I believe he could implicate several others, including Mr. North. And I believe that he was prepared to implicate them. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=tatum+%22jeb+bush%22 ROBERT LORI: Who ordered you to "take out" Amiram Nir? GENE TATUM: It came through Major Rodriguez, who actually ended up being Felix Rodriguez. Most of the orders that we would receive would come through that particular mode. Now this, you have to understand, was after Iran-Contra. So the order came from Rodriguez, but it was actually from George Bush. ROBERT LORI: Now how do you know it was from George Bush? GENE TATUM: Because I spoke to Mr. Bush concerning it. ROBERT LORI: And how did you speak to him? Did you speak to him face-to-face? GENE TATUM: Via land line. ROBERT LORI: And what did he tell you? GENE TATUM: He explained to me that Mr. Nir was a threat, that he was trying to expose the movement and the trafficking, and that he needed to be "taken out." And he told me to pick up my Archer Team, relocate to El Salvador, that tactical fuel [unclear] and tactical beacons would be set up. I was to move my aircraft to those beacons for re-fueling, and eliminate Mr. Nir. ROBERT LORI: Now what was your frame of mind, as... GENE TATUM: Let me qualify that: I was also told that this was an approved mission by the Mossad and that it was primarily for the Mossad that we were doing this. ROBERT LORI: So the Mossad viewed Amiram Nir as a renegade agent, and they wanted him "taken out" as well. GENE TATUM: That's the understanding that was given to me, yes. ROBERT LORI: What was your frame of mind? Did you have any compunction about carrying out the killing of people? GENE TATUM: No. Let me qualify how many people I've had to kill in my life: within 5 feet of me, probably about 30; within 200 feet, about 80; and beyond that, I don't know, because -- probably thousands, with missiles and so forth. ROBERT LORI: So you were pretty gung-ho, U.S. Military. GENE TATUM: Absolutely. ROBERT LORI: I mean, you followed orders. And when somebody said, "Do this," you did it. Because you believe in your country and you believed in what your leaders were telling you. GENE TATUM: That's correct. ROBERT LORI: Let's back up for just a moment, and talk about the very first covert operation that you say you were involved in. You were involved in Southeast Asia, in a covert operation, during the Viet Nam War. Tell us about that covert operation. GENE TATUM: [CN: Tatum told how he joined the Air Force in the late '60s/early 70's, was trained as an air traffic controller, and went on to advanced schooling: Army jump school; escape and evasion school, with jungle training; sea survival school; diving school. He said he was then sent on temporary duty into Thailand to help set up a communications center. Task Force Alpha, a large intelligence force, was also there. Tatum said he was then "volunteered" into an assignment which apparently is how he got involved with covert operations. From there, according to Tatum, he worked with successive White House administrations.] Our mission in "Pegasus" was to align foreign leaders, foreign financiers, and foreign countries with the policies of the United States, using first of all diplomacy. If diplomacy did not work, then it was turned over to the Pegasus unit to work in one of the three arenas that we were professionals at working at. [CN: i.e., blackmail, intimidation, and murder.] ROBERT LORI: Let's talk about this "Operation Pegasus." How old is Pegasus? GENE TATUM: I'm told, by various intelligence sources around the world, that Pegasus is an operation that's been in place since probably the '50s. It was originally designed to spy on spies. In other words, to look at the CIA and the National Security Agency to see who is loyal, who is doing what. {1}. And that *was* a portion of Pegasus's duties; there was a section... *My* duties included simply flying -- "fancy taxi driver," I should put it, sometimes armed. ROBERT LORI: Do you have any reason to believe that Pegasus still exists? GENE TATUM: I think, due to the mission of Pegasus and due to the time line. And folks, I'm just being as sincere as I can be. There are folks out there who have heard of this "New World Order" regime: It's very real. And there's a real timetable to the New World Order. I was paid $50,000 a mission to ensure that this timetable was kept in place. And that timetable is the year 2000, for the New World Order to be in place. Part of what the target date entails is trying to have the New World Order replace or control the United Nations. And we see how the United Nations is faltering right now. So it's something for everyone to think about. I know a lot of people say, "Oh, another conspiracy." I'm with you. I don't believe most of the conspiracy items that are out in the media today. But I know that this is true. I know it because I've killed people to make sure it comes to pass. ROBERT LORI: Let's talk about some of the other people that you say you've killed. You say that you were ordered to assassinate several people. We talked about Amiram Nir. You say you were ordered to assassinate the president of a Third World country. Who was that? GENE TATUM: Neutralize. ROBERT LORI: Okay, neutralize. I'm sorry. GENE TATUM: We chose intimidation in that. In 1989, the United States was working in the Nicaraguan arena very heavily, to get free elections in place. Daniel Ortega would not allow the free elections. After the negotiations and the diplomacy failed, Ortega was given to us. We decided that we would try to align him. Because of his position, it would be a little too much to go in and assassinate him. The way we decided to align him is, we chose a second cousin of Mr. Ortega. Our diplomats went to Mr. Ortega. We told him that we intended on assassinating that cousin. We told him on what *day* we would assassinate that cousin and *how* we would assassinate that cousin, and told him to protect him as best he could -- 'cause he would be next. On that day, in that mode, we assassinated his cousin. ROBERT LORI: What was the name of this person? GENE TATUM: I have no idea. I only flew the 4-man team in. ROBERT LORI: How was the assassination accomplished? GENE TATUM: Rocket fire. On the home. ROBERT LORI: In what city? Was that in Managua? GENE TATUM: Outside of Managua. ROBERT LORI: And how did you determine that this person... Did somebody tell you that this person would be the way to get to Daniel Ortega? GENE TATUM: We carry information files. Another part of what Pegasus has done through the years is, they've also spied on political leaders and financiers around the world. And there's a huge database on everyone. If, during our active time, a member of Pegasus was intimidated or placed before a Senate committee or something like that, they could simply pull out this file and intimidate that politician into backing off. And that *was* done. ROBERT LORI: I'm wondering, as you tell this: Could you prove to anybody that you were actually involved in this assassination of the cousin of Ortega? Do you have anything physical that you could bring to the world, to say, "Here's my proof that we did it?" GENE TATUM: Other than a few photographs, no. ROBERT LORI: I guess all this sounds pretty amazing. But also, I think that it's hard to document. If we were to say, "Gene Tatum: How could you prove to us that you actually were flying along and 'took out' Amiram Nir?" Is there any way you could prove that? GENE TATUM: Yes. In 1985, after finding what I did on my aircraft on that February 26th mission, and 50 or so missions after that, I had decided to start planning for my retirement. And I understood what happened to most "assets" after they became a liability. So I started planning, and documenting. In addition to the planning and documenting, my flight crews would carry small video cameras. The medic would carry a video camera in his medic bag on many occasions. My crew chief would video any air attacks that we had accomplished. So yes, we have some proof. ROBERT LORI: So you've got video tapes of that. GENE TATUM: Absolutely. ROBERT LORI: In 1992, you were still involved with Pegasus, you hadn't left that operation by then, and you were ordered to neutralize Ross Perot. Is that correct? GENE TATUM: At a meeting in southeast Florida, at the home of a prominent political leader (and I choose not to use his name at this time), that political leader tasked me with eliminating the leader of a new party which, in his own words, "could tear apart the Constitution of the United States." ROBERT LORI: Why won't you tell us the name of this political leader? GENE TATUM: Because it's not worth what repercussions can come back down on my family, to involve him. He's bigger than the President, believe it or not. ROBERT LORI: He's bigger than the President. Who could be bigger than the President? GENE TATUM: There's several people in this country who are bigger than the President, Rob. {2}. And I would rather not delve into that section of it right now. ROBERT LORI: Okay. So what was your understanding that you should do about Ross Perot when you got this order? And why would you take orders from this person if this person was not part of the... Was this person part of the government in 1992? GENE TATUM: Yes, he was. ROBERT LORI: What was your understanding that you ought to do, in regard to Ross Perot? GENE TATUM: We were told to neutralize him. But I believe that, there again, having the ability to choose how we would do that. {3}. One way that we worked in the past was by blackmail. And had I gone forward with it (however I didn't), I probably would have used that method. We used a drug, made in Columbia (let me see if I can remember the name of it), "Escopalamina"(sp?). They call it "the voodoo drug," which puts a person completely under your control. I mean *completely* under your control. You can have them do anything that you would want them to do. You could video tape the actions of that person, and then you could hold that video tape as blackmail against them. And they would never remember what they did or who had them under their control. It's a very powerful drug and we used it on several occasions. ROBERT LORI: And tell me about one of those occasions. How was it used? GENE TATUM: One of the people we used that drug on was... Gee. He was one of the Contra leaders... I think his name was Adolfo Calero(sp?). We used it on him to keep him in line, because he too wanted... Enrique Bermudez, along with Adolfo Calero, wanted political positions in Nicaragua when the Chamorro government took its place, replacing Ortega. Bermudez we couldn't align. So we eliminated him. ROBERT LORI: You mean *you* were responsible for his killing. GENE TATUM: That is correct. I didn't directly. A 4-man team was flown in, outside Managua, and killed him. However Calero we were able to blackmail, using this drug. We took Calero. We put him in a hotel room with another man. We put them into [sex] acts together, and filmed it. Now they have a high-ranking official in the Chamorro Nicaraguan government under their control. ROBERT LORI: You have been handed lots of assignments over the years and you always took part in them -- including the killing of people. But this assignment, to neutralize Ross Perot, you backed away from and you quit Pegasus. Why? GENE TATUM: In 1989 I backed away from my first assignment to "take someone out." ROBERT LORI: What was that assignment? GENE TATUM: That was an assignment to "take out" a man who helped fund some of the Nicaraguan aircraft, a man by the name of William Kennedy, who's now in Lompaw(?) Prison. I will not participate in assassinations of any sort, character assassination or anything, of American citizens. That, to me, is not furthering the cause of America. [CN: Tatum then discussed a video tape.] It shows other political leaders involved, and financial leaders from the world. It's a video tape of particular meetings, where assignments were given, including assignments against that [sic] financial leaders. And I won't give you the names of those, but it's enough to keep anyone alive that *I* want to keep alive. ROBERT LORI: So can you tell us whether or not George Bush or anybody of that stature is in these video tapes? GENE TATUM: Yes, he is. ROBERT LORI: When you told these folks that you weren't going to carry out this mission against Ross Perot, what was their response? GENE TATUM: Director Colby told me that you can't just walk away from black operations. That's when I pulled the tapes out of my briefcase and I said, "I understand that, Mr. Colby. However, I'm walking away." And I gave him a copy of the tapes and told him what the repercussions would be. ROBERT LORI: Did you contact Ross Perot, subsequent to your quitting Pegasus? GENE TATUM: Yes, Mr. Perot was advised. As a matter of fact, two weeks ago, I interviewed with Texas News (I think that's CBS, out of Dallas) concerning a copy of the letter, that they had been able to get from the Perot people. ROBERT LORI: And what did Mr. Perot have to say about what you told him? About this effort to neutralize him? GENE TATUM: I believe that he went public with that, in 1992. He made the allegation, to the public, that this was happening. I think a lot of people pooh-poohed it. But *he* was serious. ROBERT LORI: I think a lot of people *were* skeptical. Did you contact Ross Perot in 1992? GENE TATUM: Yes. ROBERT LORI: And you told him that there was going to be this effort to neutralize him. GENE TATUM: Yes. ROBERT LORI: Do you have any proof that people told you to neutralize Ross Perot? Do you have any video or were there any written orders? GENE TATUM: We have a tape. A cassette tape. ROBERT LORI: An audio tape. GENE TATUM: Right. But that *has* been placed onto the video. Those tapes involve people a lot larger than George Bush. When I talk about the New World Order, I'm talking about an organization that is bigger than anyone can ever know. It's not *called* that. I'm not sure what they're calling it, but we *do* have and are getting ready to release in one of my books a copy of the mission of the New World Order, that was given out in a handout to the members of Pegasus so that we understood what our mission was and who we were working for. However, because it involves people a lot bigger, people who I... I'm not saying I'm a bad-ass. But I know what I'm doing, in the arena that I work in. And I would *never* cross these people. ROBERT LORI: But I think a lot of people are skeptical when people toss around terms like "New World Order" and all that. These are words that frequently "right wingers" use as code words for what *they* see as the conspiracy to run the world. I mean, who could be bigger than the President of the United States? GENE TATUM: [Laughs] Many people *groom* men who are to become President of the United States. Those people are bigger. ROBERT LORI: So are you talking about heads of multi-national corporations? GENE TATUM: World financiers and world leaders. ROBERT LORI: How can folks get in touch with you? GENE TATUM: They can get in touch with us with this phone number: (352) 787-9846. Or they can write to us at PO Box 895082, Leesburg, Florida 34789. (NOTE: These contact points are no longer valid as Mr. Tatum has been moved to an undisclosed maximum lockdown Federal Penitentiary.) ---------------------------<< Notes >>--------------------------- {1} Tatum's info on Pegasus is corroborated by Trenton Parker. See CN 6.54 and CN 6.89 for more on Parker, who appeared on Tom Valentine's *Radio Free America* show in 1993. Parker has talked about this "Pegasus" unit, saying that it was secretly set up by Harry Truman to keep an eye on the CIA. {2} "There's several people in this country who are bigger than the President..." Recall CN 1.42, the interview of Larry Nichols circa July 1994, where Nichols states ...you see, it's starting to affect the *Power*. You see, Clinton's not the power. He's a cheap, tin man. As a matter of fact, now that the Paula Jones' story is out, you understand that he's really a sexual pervert. He's "white trash." But he's probably 5th to 7th level player. And Stephens, for example, the people that own him, are probably maybe 3 or 4 level. I don't even *know* who's the 1st and 2nd level! But you see, he's starting to affect their money... {3} "We were told to neutralize [Ross Perot]. But I believe that, there again, having the ability to choose how we would do that." Ross Perot, speaking at a "Not This NAFTA" rally, Tampa, Florida, November 7, 1993. Broadcast on C-Span, November 7, 1993: ---------<<End Notes Section>>------ ... Early this morning, I was out riding horseback by myself. And suddenly a police officer came up to me. He gave me a note about this problem I discussed with you today. And to make a long story short, it's from the FBI. It relates to a person who said that he was coming out of Mexico, and that a group has contacted 6 Cubans to kill me. The caller indicated it would take place in Tampa, Florida *or* at the debate in Washington. Or was the method used to "neutralize" Perot the threat to disrupt his daughter's then-upcoming wedding? 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News Release 10/1/96 The following information was secreted out of Lake County (Florida) jail by a sympathetic official who is appalled at the situation. Dois "Chip" Tatum, who months ago came forward and exposed extensive involvement of the United States government and officials including Clinton, Bush and North in Central American drugs schemes, now finds himself mysteriously in incommunicado lockdown at this out-of-the-way facility [apparently Atlanta] for a federal inmate. Tatum and wife were federally charged, and guessed guilty at a trial in which classified defense evidence was suppressed by a federal judge, of a nebulous and discrediting white collar wrongdoing only after he blew the whistle. Moreover, this latest muffling of Tatum's voice, not coincidentally until after election time, comes following his doing radio broadcasts and newspaper releases (including Tampa Tribune) from a Tampa jail, and Internet releases, and immediately following the recent corroborating exposes by the San Jose Mercury News and a research professor from the University of Maryland. Watergate and all subsequent "gates" pale alongside this breaking revelation! Update, 10/3/96: They had Chip moving. He was taken by the Marshals on Tuesday, 10/1, and I found him in Atlanta. They won't tell me where he's going or an ETA [Estimated Time of Arrival]. (signed) Nancy Tatum -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |